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Des

Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 255
Location: Isle of Bute
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:27 pm Post subject: Please read this & sign if you agree |
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I know this guy personally & he is innocent but obviously you have to make your own minds up but please consider it,thanks
http://petition.nogpl.net/index.php |
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mwl Guest
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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How disgusting is that I have signed  |
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no the full shillin Moderator

Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 332
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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| mwl wrote: | How disgusting is that I have signed  |
I agree ,i signed too , pupygrl has signed too , she is a U.S. citizen , and
she was sickened .
She says if it happened here the guy would have been shot and would
never been found . _________________
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Des

Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 255
Location: Isle of Bute
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Many thanks people, could i ask you to maybe email the link to friends/family who dont use the forum..
I have already passed it to my Sister in Australia & it is currently doing the rounds out there, again many thanks  |
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Zaf
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 278
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ive signed too, the world is going mad  |
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Biff
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Signed and posted on some Irish websites |
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BoB Assistant Admin

Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 2937
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Is no one allowed to defend themselves these days?
It's time the scum got what they deserved, the thug got off to lightly.
He will still be out there!!!
Oops, was that reverse I accidentally selected
The world is not going mad, it is mad!  _________________ Inverurie Webcam
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Bill McLaughlin

Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 108
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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He's not innocent, he pleaded guilty to unintentionally injuring the other guy.
He should have been admonished.
In my opinion, It's the Judge who is guilty of gross misjudgement
( In Scotland if I said the Judge was definitely guilty of gross misjudgement, that's a crime known as murmuring, and carries a heavy jail sentence)
The law is a clown in a wig, above criticism but not cynicism.
I've signed it!! _________________ The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... |
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BoB Assistant Admin

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Des

Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 255
Location: Isle of Bute
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:11 am Post subject: |
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| Bill McLaughlin wrote: | He's not innocent, he pleaded guilty to unintentionally injuring the other guy.
He should have been admonished.
In my opinion, It's the Judge who is guilty of gross misjudgement
( In Scotland if I said the Judge was definitely guilty of gross misjudgement, that's a crime known as murmuring, and carries a heavy jail sentence)
The law is a clown in a wig, above criticism but not cynicism.
I've signed it!! |
Semantics aside Bill, he was told that if he didnt plead guilty to the charge that was accepted then he faced an even longer sentence..
I see your point though & appreciate your signing & everyone else that is making this campaign more public  |
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BoB Assistant Admin

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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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What pisses me off these days is that if you do anything to defend your property or your family, you are the one made to feel and is treated as a criminal.
If the trouble maker gets hurt that is his/her problem!
Not the victims fault that the thug was full of drink and drugs!
Why should the victim be treated as if it is him/her that is in the wrong.
As long as reasonable force is used to protect you property and your family and yourself it should never go to court.
If it does it should be up to a jury to decide if what you did was reasonable. That in itself is left up to interpretation. _________________ Inverurie Webcam
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sissy Moderator

Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 2196
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just signed Des,what a nightmare for him and his family.  |
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Xcotty Guest
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Me too  |
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Thespian
Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 21
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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First post on the new FTS and I can't think of a better subject to post on. As a rule, I don't just sign these petitions just because a fellow FTS'er asks me to, so I did a bit of digging. From what I can see, the petition website does paint a fairly rosy picture of Stephen, as you would expect it to, but, without a doubt, even the most jaundiced of people would say he has been grossly mistreated.
It appears from Stephen's comments in the Sunday Mail, that he acted rashly and attempted to drive away without any consideration for the injury he may have caused the pedestrian. Strictly speaking, that is an offense. However, on these bare facts a sentence in excess of 3 years has to be excessive. But when you consider that not only was the pedestrian menacing and actually attacking Stephen, who had children in his care, then ANY custodial sentence is wholly unacceptable.
I have happily signed this petition.
(Mind you, on a slightly flippant note which I hope he doesn't mind, I'll bet proison seems lik a holiday camp to a man with so many kids!! ) |
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Des

Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 255
Location: Isle of Bute
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Thespian, you & thousands more here & around the world are signing this petition..
Stephen accepts that he is guilty of a crime but not that of which he was convicted & did not merit the sentence handed down to him..
The thug that fell under the wheels was out on bail,tagged & a known criminal
who was carrying an offensive weapon at the time & threatening Stephen & his family..  |
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maria143

Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 476
Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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I signed...
I'm sorry here you get praised and on tv not only from defending yourself but from riding the city of a criminal... _________________
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Des

Joined: 18 Jan 2008 Posts: 255
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah i know Maria, this country is so PC that it is getting to the stage that you are wary of telling a teenager off in-case you get accused of something &/or get sued..
Come back Bernard Goetz , well maybe not as extreme but you get my meaning
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BoB Assistant Admin

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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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It amounts to this, do you protect yourself and your family or do you allow someone to harm them.
There is no doubt that in the eyes of the law he used unequal force, but let's face it, I would have done the same in that position.
Though I don't know the facts of the case, as far as I am concerned my family comes first and I would do time for it.
I have signed the petition (a while ago) and I hope there is some sense seen shortly.
If the moron had been hitting my car while I was in it, I would have drove straight over the top of him to protect my family. _________________ Inverurie Webcam
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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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BoB said
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He used what was available to him at the time!  |
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BoB Assistant Admin

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Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| woodysdad wrote: | BoB said
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He used what was available to him at the time!  |
Yes I agree, and I did say I would have done the same
Only thing is I would have accidentally knocked the car into reverse.  _________________ Inverurie Webcam
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Des

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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Only thing is I would have accidentally knocked the car into reverse.  |
& then forward, reverse, forward & then claimed that you had a rare form of motoring OCD where you have to do things 3 or 4 times or your world will crumble 
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