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Sidsnotwasere
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 Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Ricky,i doubt whether the Scottish people,if push came tae shove,wud ever vote tae break away from the U.K.
As for Brussels and the E.U. no thanks.
The amount of thieving that goes on in those corridors wud make Gordon Brown look like a penny pincher.
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rickyross3359
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That remains to be seen. Concerning Europe the fact is we are in Europe whether we like it or not. If we are in Europe would it not be better if Scotland had the best representation possible?
Since Scotland is not a member State like Luxembourg or even Ireland, we don't have automatic right to be represented on EU institutions such as the European Council, the European Commission, the European Court of Justice or the European Court of Auditors.
The argument is not whether we want to be in Europe or not. It's the fact that we are in Europe so Scotland should be having the best possible representation. |
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Merak
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:13 am Post subject: |
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| Sidsnotwasere wrote: | | Ricky,i doubt whether the Scottish people,if push came tae shove,wud ever vote tae break away from the U.K. |
indeed - and Salmond knows it. Hence no referendum on independence yet and instead it's been put back til after the next elections. That says it all really.
| Sidsnotwasere wrote: | As for Brussels and the E.U. no thanks.
The amount of thieving that goes on in those corridors wud make Gordon Brown look like a penny pincher. |
Precisely. And the likes of salmond is forever banging on about unfair financials from westminster?! Goes to show that for some it's more about getting away from westminster than what's in scotland's best interests. |
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Merak
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| rickyross3359 wrote: | | Take off those "Red rose" specs Merek. An Independent Scotland in Europe is better than Scotland in the Uk Take the European parliament where Luxembourg with 500,000 people gets 6 MEP's and Scotland with a Pop of 5 million get's emm, 6 MEP's . Incidently Denmark with population of 5.4 mill gets 13 MEP's. Also these other nations have a seat at on The Council of Ministers. I don't think your argument stacks up all that well. As for your constant badgering of Alex Salmond get a grip man. |
i'm going to try and avoid using the word 'indepedence' I think because it's either going to be ruled from westminster, or ruled from Brussels. One thing it ain't going to be, is independent.
As for badgering... that's exactly all salmond does when it comes to westminster. Goldie got him a cracker the other day when he was playing his bagpipes about the budget and she said something to him about all he's doing is moaning and not actually saying anything about how it was going to be accommodated. He said something back that never actually said anything, so she was bang-on - far too busy moaning about it to be thinking about anything else.
Come to think of it... it would be a roar to give salmond the helm for two years or something. Who would he be able to blame for everything?  No doubt he would still manage to blame westminster.  |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Merek I wont be biting - however the SNP will bring their Independence referendum before parliament and if the Unionist parties do not want to play then that is up to them. But the bill will be most deffo brought before the paliament as promised. |
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Merak
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They've ALREADY said they won't be holding a referendum in 2010 - as promised - in their election manifesto! You clearly don't believe me, so you'd best phone them and get them to tell you.  |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| Ok phoned 'em up and the said "We will bring the bill before parliament to hold a referendum however as we do not hold a majority in Holyrood and by the fact that the Unionist parties do not support the referendum bill unless we can persuade otherwise it is highly likely that the bill will fail." |
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Carol
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm for a referendum and a yes vote. We have a democractic right to determine our own future and politicians of all parties should realise that.
Are the SNP premature to consider taking a referendum bill forward in 2010, or should they wait until after the 2011 SP elections? |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Personally speaking Carol I have no preference as to when they hold it. I have waited thus far and don't mind waiting until after 2011. However if the Tories do get in at the UK General election I suspect that many more will want a referendum as soon as possible. |
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Carol
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Providing the timing is right, I've no preference either. although I wouldn't like to think a referendum is too far down the line. |
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Merak
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| Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| rickyross3359 wrote: | | Ok phoned 'em up and the said "We will bring the bill before parliament to hold a referendum however as we do not hold a majority in Holyrood and by the fact that the Unionist parties do not support the referendum bill unless we can persuade otherwise it is highly likely that the bill will fail." |
ahh.. bless wee "it's no oor fault" eck... wiping the sweat off his brow. |
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Merak
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| Carol wrote: | | Providing the timing is right, I've no preference either. although I wouldn't like to think a referendum is too far down the line. |
I would love to say that I can't wait for it either cause then that'll settle it one way or the other and be done with it. But it won't be done with it... if Yes.. there'll be years to come of wingeing about this that and the other and westminster STILL getting blamed for things 100 years down the line. If No.. well pretty much the same... westminster still getting blamed for everything 100 years down the line. |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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Oh well then Merek, we'll be dammed if we say YES and dammed if we say NO.  |
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Carol
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| Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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it seems daft for Westminster to be babysitting us, I kinda think we're big enough to look after ourselves  |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| By the Merek and company if you are so intent on WESTMINSTER still babysitting us can you ask them to stop inferring to themselves as THE HONOURABLE MEMBER or if a member of the Privy Cooncil THE RIGHT HONOURABLE MEMBER. They really want to Shred SIR Fred's Knighthood do they? God they need to start Shredding themselves. My estimation of the Scottish parliament has just gone up. |
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Merak
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| As expected Merek, I say as expected |
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Merak
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| Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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| The way you go on about them you'd think they were Gods or something. Mind you, I've already said you view them through rose tinted specs. |
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Merak
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Well, well, well. Wee eck caught with his "done nothing wrong" finger in the pie as well now!  |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Old news from weeks ago Merek - which has been distorted as per usual. |
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Merak
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| Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| distorted? Aye right. Crikey I don't think there's any of them that haven't tried to plead things aren't as they seem. And him the very one commenting on the morals of it all turns not to have had his wee snout in the trough as well. |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| As I said old news Next? |
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Merak
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| That one quickly dismissed I see. Wouldn't do to muddy yer wee starries I suppose. |
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rickyross3359
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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see my post on 12th May on expenses - already mentions all that you say. Any more?
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