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shagpile
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 Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Merak wrote: | to blame on some bloke called bin laden that most us had never heard of beforehand.  |
Again I reiterrate, OBL is not wanted by the FBI with regard to the terror plot, not any part of it.
The 'YouTube' link you've posted confirms that WT7; in expert oppinion, was demolished. Yet the official view is that the building collapsed because of fire!
Dropped penny the has........... |
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shagpile
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Merak wrote: | The pentagon is another thing. What was the point of that if it was all staged? The whole thing has by and large centred around the WTC insomuch that you could be forgiven for not knowing about the pentagon one.  |
No Merak, it's the same thing. The same 'attack'. The same loss of innocent lives. And now you know about it, don't you want to investigate it with the open mind that, this democracy 'under attack' allows you the privelege to do?
You've read it on this thread..... The most believable bit that is that WTCs 1 & 2, collapsed after being hit by two hi-jacked commercial aircraft. Not because of a mere fire. The latter would be too unbelievable. So the former takes precedence over any other scenario to the exclusion of all else.
Do you fear anyone of Asian appearance now? If not, it's not worked (completely) on you yet.
The toughest funeral I've ever attended (apart from my dad) was that of my best mate "B". He took his own life. There was no drunk driver to blame, no incompetent surgeon, no natural cause. Just himself.
It's easier with some (particularly nasty) someone/else to blame. |
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shagpile
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| maria143 wrote: | Yeah...I know what you mean...all those people coorporating to die burned and jumping of the roof...out the window....Oh waite your movie clip didn't have that...
Could be the US Newsreport added them in...that could be it...and the subway and station that killed everyone in it and some of the police and fireman that were down there trying to help and they were inside the buildings too....what troopers...what we do for our country and without the 100 virgins waiting in heaven for us..... 
Well I guess that was enough of good deed...Now lets make sure to cripple the economy...We will blame that on...Hold let me think and then we borrow money to start a war....Yes...your right how could anyone think otherwise..... |
Victims, not co-conspiracists.
News reports from the time of the events contradict the accepted 'embedded' version.
BTW, GW's handling of the US econnomy has been superb has it not? No wonder Republicans attack Obama over his middle name. |
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Jamrie
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| shagpile wrote: | | Merak wrote: | | to blame on some bloke called bin laden that most us had never heard of beforehand. |
Again I reiterrate, OBL is not wanted by the FBI with regard to the terror plot, not any part of it.
The 'YouTube' link you've posted confirms that WT7; in expert oppinion, was demolished. Yet the official view is that the building collapsed because of fire!
Dropped penny the has........... |
Be that as it may, perhaps it's not the FBI that wants OBL, but someone in government does.
With a senate vote of 87 to 1, they voted to set a reward of US$50million for the capture, or information leading to his capture for the crime of his involvement in attacking US interests. |
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shagpile
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Jamrie wrote: | Be that as it may, perhaps it's not the FBI that wants OBL, but someone in government does.
With a senate vote of 87 to 1, they voted to set a reward of US$50million for the capture, or information leading to his capture for the crime of his involvement in attacking US interests. |
Well nobody in the CIA seems to be willing to step foreward to receive this reward Jamrie, because according to released information. He has received and continues to receive medical treatment at US Military hospitals in Dubai and Afghanistan.
The US government did not investigate 9/11, but the FBI did. To be fair though, the US government did publish their investigation into 9/11. Not very joined up government in the USA eh? |
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Jamrie
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not disputing your post because I simply don't know the facts, although I must admit that I do find it rather strange that a person with a US$ 50million bounty on his head is being treated by the same people who have issued a warrant for his arrest.
I know that he was medically treated by the US in 1996 and 98, well before he was wanted for crimes against humanity.
To say that he is presently receiving medical treatment in US military hospitals in Dubai and Afghanistan really beggers belief, especially when one considers that forces in both Afghanistan and Pakistan are continually scouring the area in an effort to winkle him out.
Can you give me the source of your information.
If this is indeed true, then this must be the US biggest c***-up ever. |
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shagpile
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| Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Jamrie wrote: | To say that he is presently receiving medical treatment in US military hospitals in Dubai and Afghanistan really beggers belief, especially when one considers that forces in both Afghanistan and Pakistan are continually scouring the area in an effort to winkle him out.
Can you give me the source of your information.
If this is indeed true, then this must be the US biggest c***-up ever. |
Jamrie, it's some of the featured info on 'Loose Change'. If you go to their official site, you will have no problem downloading the info, there are several alternative sites. I am not aware if he still recieves treatment though. |
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Merak
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| shagpile wrote: | | Merak wrote: | | The pentagon is another thing. What was the point of that if it was all staged? The whole thing has by and large centred around the WTC insomuch that you could be forgiven for not knowing about the pentagon one. |
No Merak, it's the same thing. The same 'attack'. |
lol. I know it was the same attack, but what I was doing when I said "that's another thing" was using the term of phrase "that's another thing" ie something else I want to add on, rather than meaning something completely different, if you see what I mean? So, what I'm saying is that if the gov's idea was to bring down the world trade centre then there wasn't really any point in doing the pentagon thing as well. The WTC would've been excuse enough. |
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Des
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shagpile
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Merak wrote: | | lol. I know it was the same attack, but what I was doing when I said "that's another thing" was using the term of phrase "that's another thing" ie something else I want to add on, rather than meaning something completely different, if you see what I mean? So, what I'm saying is that if the gov's idea was to bring down the world trade centre then there wasn't really any point in doing the pentagon thing as well. The WTC would've been excuse enough. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/northwoods.html
It needed a 'Pearl Harbour' type of attack to further the (then) aims of Cuban invasion. OIL was the reason for 911, to justify the Iraq invasion and 'regime change'. Have you got it yet Merak?
PS Do you think GW would have been a better president to handle the Cuban Missile Crisis than JFK?
PPS Do you have a favourite Bushism? Mine is "We gotta do something about these suicide bombers, not only are they a danger to themselves.... (but to other people)"! |
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maria143
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| Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Merak wrote: | | The pentagon is another thing. What was the point of that if it was all staged? The whole thing has by and large centred around the WTC insomuch that you could be forgiven for not knowing about the pentagon one. |
Or the rest of the pentagon that is below ground....But I remember it like yesturday, Living work picking up my kids....taking money out of the bank...filling gas tank....it was like preparing for a hurricane...I know it sounds stupid...but I couldn't help it....
Later we found out that some of the terrorist took their flying lessons in in Miami at the Opa Locka Airport 2 to 3 miles from my house...
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