Is the UK treasury selling off Scottish assets

rickyross3359

That the Nationwide has been able to purchase the "good assets" of the Dunfermline and the taxpayer picks up the bad assets comes as no surprise. Given that the Nationwide will not reveal what it did pay for the good bits apart from saying that in the current financial market it paid a fair price. .
However we learn tonight that there was another bid put on the table by a consortium of Scottish based companies and that this wasn't explored in the way it should have been.
All of this begs serious questions and I hope that politics hasn't come into the decision but I aint that stupid.

Lord Blackadder · Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 2953

It certainly looks like Scotland is being asset-stripped.

Are we to become more dependent on our southern cousins???

What price Independence now???
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rickyross3359 · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:05 pm Post subject:

Maybe we should stop pussy footing along with the UK government. We have tried peacful means but hey I really think Violence is the only thing the English government understands.

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I'll hold the jackets!!!

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rickyross3359 · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject:

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rickyross3359 · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject:

Merek you work for the BBC by any chance? What a load of bias bile u utter forth.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject:

And when you say what Scottish Consortium, it was reported on Newsnight 30th March. I believe part of it was Scottish life, Standard life and other groups. It wasn't given time to even get around the table.
As for British, its only a geographical term. I will never be British the way that Gordon Brown wants us to be British.

Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

Why what's bias about it?

Wee eck works against westminster at every turn. Bad mouths it at every turn. So, if there's politics at play here do you really expect the westminster gov to go out of it's way to help? Ha! And, it would be exactly the same the other way round. I'm able to see that though unlike yourself who prefers to view it through the rose tinted glasses of hail SNP

and big bad westminster asset stripping poor ol' Scotland.

Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

oh, and I know the stuff with british as well - it's a blanket nationality that we're under whether we like it or not seeing as we had no say in the matter. Then again, anybody born in Scotland had no say in the matter either. Personally I don't ascribe to being Scottish or British.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:39 pm Post subject:

Well I knew that of course with a name like Merek. I chose not to wear rose tinted glasses and I can certainly see how westminister perceives Scotland. I need no help with that.

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Lord Blackadder · Joined: 05 Dec 2008 Posts: 2953

It's true you know. England doesn't really exist as a nation except in times of war, football and cricket ...

Most people south of our beloved border consider themseves Yorkshiremen, or Cornish, or Lancastrian or whatever before saying "English".

Therefore, seek not to blame the English ... blame the self-serving, stinking and corrupt parliamentary governing party system!

Viva La Revolución

Anarchists Untie!!!!!!

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rickyross3359 · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:35 am Post subject:

The fact is Merek you seek to Blame Alex Salmond for every dispute with Westminister. The real fact remains Gordon Brown by his own words said "He refuses to work with an SNP Aministration and has sought to Thwart it time and time again.
As for Alex Salmond picking fights with Westminster sorry He is and Will stick up for Scotland at every appropriate opportunity.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:03 am Post subject:

Also I would say I do not blame English people for anything. It is the English establishment that has run roughshod over Scotland in general.
Its no surprise that our largest neighbour would dominate the UK - its only natural. However there is no doubt that Scotland would be served better as a Nation of 5 million and more able to focus on developing what would be of benefit to our people. We can no longer afford to support the infrastucture that is London and the South East of England.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:11 am Post subject:

Oh and Merek. Alex Salmond has not shelved the 2011 referendum <it was 2011 in the manifesto from the start - not 2010. He has shelved nothing unfortunately the Unionists within the Scottish parliament have made it clear they will not support the Bill when presented.
From Wendy's "Bring it on" we now know that Labour have shirked out of that stance. So not it is not the SNP running scared here.

Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

2011? really? Will hearing it from the horse's mouth convince you otherwise?

" "We will stick to what we offered the people; demonstrating credibility in government, engaging with the people through our national conversation and bringing forward a referendum in 2010. This is a timetable that was set out in our manifesto on which we fought and won the election and we will continue proceeding on that organised timetable as opposed to the chaotic u-turns of Labour.

http://www.snp.org/node/13771

What planet are you on? Oh.. the SNP's. Silly me.

By the way.. it's Merak, not Merek.. but then I see you're not really used to paying attention to detail, so it's ok.

Sidsnotwasere · Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 705

Merek,to be fair tae the SNP,they at least have done more in 2 years than the Labour have in the past 10 in Scotland,and no,i do not support the S.N.P. in any way,shape or form,though my son has joined with them recently.

This may surprise you,maybe not,i have written and emailed tae the Labour Party headquarters 4 times in recent years,not one single reply,i also emailed tae the S.N.P. 3 months ago, and got a reply within 3 hours from Susan Ruddick,that tell's me who cares more about Scotland's interests.

Okay,they may not be everyone's cuppa tea,but they will take most votes at the next election,trust me on that point.
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Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

That salmond is a devious little c***. He's forever bleating on about how scotland would be better off independent... yet he's also been at Europe to clarify whether or not a Scottish Euro note would be feasible [which it would]. But have you ever heard the likes of it? A scottish euro? There's nothing inherently scottish about the euro and this man is taking folk for clowns thinking that cause if it's called a "scottish" euro then that's all going to be fine. And that's from the same man causing a fuss about the take over of HBOS and piping up about the future of scottish bank notes. He's sold scotland down the swanney in the event that "independence" as he calls it, ever happens. Out of the clutches of westminster, straight into the arms of brussels. That slimey toad would sell Scotland to Brunei if it meant getting away from Westminster.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject:

Merek you have shown your true colours when you say that Alex Salmond is a devious wee c***. I think we know from the email scandal from NO.10 just who is devious and will go to any lengths to thwart his enemies. Brown has always surrounded himself this bulldog advisors who will do his bidding. He is certainly not the "Child of the manse" that he wants us to believe. I repeat again he would go to any lengths to besmirch the SNP or other opponents and if that means selling off Scotland's assests then if it meets his devious ends then so be it. History will eventually tell that Brown is a phycologically damaged man.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject:

The point is about the referendum is simply stated they will bring the bill to parliament as planned and when they as the government choose to do so - not when the labour party thought they should do it.
The fact that they are a minority government means of course that they will not get everything through. That is not broken promises its a reality of government without large majorities.

Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

Sidsnotwasere · Joined: 24 Jan 2008 Posts: 705

Note also that Blair has made,since he left the NL party,£15,million just by doing a wee speech here and there,feck i used tae rage when i saw Thatcher making £200,000 a time by doing likewise,Blair shows her how it should be done properly,i.e. conning everyone.
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Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

Blair ditched any association with Parliament as soon as possible after leaving office cause he knew fine well he could coin it in on the speech circuit without having to declare a penny to parliament - which he would've had to have done had he taken his place on the backbenches. It really does just go to show that his interest was self-interest over and above anything else. And to think that he's what.. the UN peace envoy to the middle east or something now? The very place he colluded to start wars in.. and he's a peace envoy? Couldnae make it up!

rickyross3359 · Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:

If Salmond is devious then there must be devious and seriously deranged devious. I would rather be deceived by Salmond than the other politicians in the bunch. Salmond at least puts Scotland deviously at the heart of his politics.

Merak · Joined: 15 Jan 2008 Posts: 154

Salmond is a man obsessed, and people with obsessions are dangerous, especially in positions of authority. He's got folk like you fooled by his free this that and the other gimmickry along with fooled into thinking independence means it in the true sense when what it means away from the evil clutches of westmister and straight into the loving arms of Brussels. Aye, independent right enough eh?

rickyross3359 · Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject:

Take off those "Red rose" specs Merek. An Independent Scotland in Europe is better than Scotland in the Uk Take the European parliament where Luxembourg with 500,000 people gets 6 MEP's and Scotland with a Pop of 5 million get's emm, 6 MEP's . Incidently Denmark with population of 5.4 mill gets 13 MEP's. Also these other nations have a seat at on The Council of Ministers. I don't think your argument stacks up all that well. As for your constant badgering of Alex Salmond get a grip man.