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AllanP · Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Central Scotland.

eloise · Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Posts: 3495

I am an ex smoker, I would never comment on people smoking as it is down to personal choice, when I smoked I thoroughly enjoyed it, I have good personal reasons for stopping,and that is the only thing that stops me, I tried and failed to quit many times, but after certain things that happened late last year, both myself and my husband gave up, he was lucky as he had an incident and could not remember ever being a smoker, I quit for his sake.We never smoked inside our house or anyone elses for that matter out of respect, at the end of the day it is down to personal choice, I can honestly say if things were still the same now, I would still be smoking and enjoying it. Each to their own

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Angelicweeyin · Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject:

I too am an ex smoker and its up to the individual if they want to smoke or not. I will not preach to them, though I cannae stand the smell of smoke now.

I have been a non smoker for nearly 2 years now. I gave up quite easily too......

Xcotty · Admin Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1377 Location: Highlands

BoB · Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:06 am Post subject:

Government IS to remove Fags from view on shelves.
Shopkeepers will have to be kept out of view.

Won't make a rats ar*e of difference will it?

Those who smoke always will until it is too late for them to stop, then there is no point in stopping is there

eloise · Joined: 21 Jan 2009 Posts: 3495

AllanP · Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Central Scotland.

Yet one more pub closed down in my home town.
It was quite a popular pub once, but sadly now no longer.

Shame on those non-smokers not filling the void left behind who dared complain about the smokers stopping them entering.
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Xcotty · Admin Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1377 Location: Highlands

We've had 4 hotels, and two pubs close down here.
Everything points to the smoking ban, they all lost custom, when that began.
Thats why so many places are making an outside smoking area.
I think there should be an "opt in/out" option, rather than a complete ban.
I reckon that is a fairer way to do something like else.
It gives everyone the freedom to choose.
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Alison · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:38 am Post subject:

At the hotel where I work, most of the workers smoke (myself included). On the nice sunny days (not many) there are more folk outside than in. While I don't agree with the smoking ban, there is a social side to it. If you're outside having a fag you'll speak to folk there, I think Merak once called it 'smirting'

The bar isn't as busy as it used to be, what with prices going through the roof and new regulations being introduced in September, and the smoking ban, I'd be surprised if our wee village can support two watering holes.

BoB · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject:

The price of a pint now I think has more to do with it than the smoking ban, it was already on the slide.
I was in a pub down south (though part of a chain) where the manager said he was busier than he had been due to people coming in to eat without the smoke. His lounge was geared to-wards dining and family enjoying a drink. Maybe this is the way to go. But for the good old fashioned bar without a lounge, they must be really struggling now!!

Alison · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject:

Aye BoB, oor bar doesn't have a lounge, only a restaurant. And under 18s have to be oot by 8.30pm so we're not exactly family friendly.
A pint here costs 2.70 with the Guinness, Strongbow and Kronenbourg coming in at 2.80.
A house nip is 1.35.....house malt 2.15........and a normal nip of anything (35ml) is 1.90.

We can't compete against the Asdas etc but when you buy yer booze there ye don't get the craik from the barmaid

Xcotty · Admin Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1377 Location: Highlands

This is just personal to me.
I would much prefer to be able to go the pub, than sit at home drinking.
But, aye, it's a really expensive night out now, and the fact,
I cant have a seat, a pint, and a smoke, really put's me off going.
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Wee John · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:17 am Post subject:

Weel eh guess Janette an eh are the lucky ains as each of us smoked over "40 fags a day" (had smoked for 37years)when the fags took a jump in price here in NYS USA back in '94.
So eh sat doon wae a buttie paper figured oot that eh had 12years left till retirement and if we quit smoking and put the half of what we spent on fags into the bank each week, eh wid hae a wee nest egg plus extra money in the pocket each week.

We discussed it and kennin how easy it wiz tih quit (efter a' we had quit hundreds o' times before

) we made up oor minds inuff is inuff why shood we support the fat cats above wae thir taxes, time tih look efter oorsels.

Weel went tih Dr and got prescription for patches and was done wae smoking in 9 days.

Weel we are still aff them, but hae tih say right upti 8 years after quitting eh still wanted a fag. (Didnae hae the craving tho)
Now eh widnah thank yi for ain.

But that wisna what eh started this for, all eh wanted tih say was we were lucky in the fact we quit when we did, coz it was before all this no allowed tih smoke crap.

Have tih say that the no smoking ban over here didnah really affect to many places it was/is more of the economy and that is from what bar owners have told me, yes their were some bar closings maybe coz of the ban, but over all its the economy.

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BoB · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:06 am Post subject:

Well done Wee John and the Missus

After 20 years my father still says he would have a fag in a minute

He doesn't bother though, even if he is offered one.

As for drinking at home, it depends who's company you are in

WACOlives · Joined: 17 Nov 2008 Posts: 900 Location: east sussex

Aye, well done Weejee n' Jnett.
Ah'm catchinyes up, and BoB's Da.
Aifter
50 years on the weed Ah've bin aff them for 2 years, 9 months n' 2 days !! Ah cin still smell a smoker fae 50 yards awa.

Wid still SOMETIMES fancy a drag.

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BoB · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject:

My father says that is the worst thing about stopping, it is the smell of other smokers!
He says it is disgusting, and he always adds "Did I smell like this?"
I always answer "Just as bad if not worse as both of you smoked" it was a fag called Cigarella he took up which was a mix of fag and cigar. They were that strong in smell I must have averaged 20 a day!

I was very rarely there as I was always away out, but when I did come home it was like a foggy room, cough, cough!!!

He stopped smoking and started eating bags of sweeties, he put on his weight again due to him eating all the time!

rickyross3359 · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject:

Yet another pub has shut in my home town as well and that is more or less to do with the smoking ban. Trouble is there aren't that many pubs in my area that have beer gardens. When I lived and worked down South most of the pubs had lovely beer gardens some even with a covered area. I think they shouldn't have totally banned the fags just made sure they had a ban where food is served. What was to stop them allowing smoking inside but in a specified area. Its the same for work we had a perfectly good smoking room with loads of extractor fans. No we all have to go outside and freeze and get soaking.

Wee John · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject:

Aye BoB n WACOlives yir rocht inuff aboot the smell.
Eh always remember before we quit, the big boss took the wife an eh oot tae a richt fancy place tih eat, an when we are sitting at the table he tells us a story aboot this couple he kent wha wir a really nice couple, but the shame of them was they stunk really bad of cigarette smoke.
He mentioned how he understood that the smokers didnah smell it coz if they did they would quit in a heart beat.

We were that thick, we didnah realize it wiz us he was speakin aboot.

Didnah dawn on us till one day we were reminicing about the past when the penny drapped, for as you said you can smell a smoker from the other side o' a room.

Yeh BoB one thing you have to watch when you quit is that you do not substitute food/sweeties in their place.

Mehsel eh just carried water wae me and boy did eh ever hae ti go to the bathroom a lot.

In Scotland eh smoked Senior Service and ower here Pall Mall.

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Wee John · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject:

Just reading back on what I have written and wish to say I'm only talking about me.
I am in no way meaning anything about anyone, for as I have said I smoked for 37 year and loved every fag that I ever puffed.
So enjoy!!

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BoB · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:

The ones I just can't stand anyone smoking is Capstan Full Strength, the smell makes me feel sick

I worked with someone who smoked them and after a while I had to ask him to stop, I did smoke for a while, but when I started looking forward to another I screwed the heid and quit.
He didn't stop, but he did go away to smoke his cancer stick.
He was a nice guy, but I just couldn't handle the amount of those fags he smoked!
They say there is nothing worse than a reformed smoker

Wee John · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject:

Aye BoB meh Dad smoked them eh ken whut yi mean.

Have tih sae now Janette n eh cannah picture oorsels smokin and us chain smokers...Wah wid hae thocht it.

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Alison · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject:

Xcotty · Admin Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1377 Location: Highlands

Wee John, for some mad reason, I thought you were BoB's son.
Then when I read you were married, and talking about retirement it clicked.
Unless of course, BoB is a lot older than he looks.

I still think the ban is unfair, whether you smoke or not.
It took away a huge choice for all of us.
Of course folk should be able to breathe unsmoked air.
Thats why I reckon an opt in/out option for pubs, would have been fairer.
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Wee John · Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:32 am Post subject:

AllanP · Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Central Scotland.

Is there an interpreter on this board who might be able to decipher Wee John's posts?
Can't understand anything he talks about, so am unable to voice an opinion or comment.
Wee John...Gie us a' a brek! ( Give us all a break )

Try typing the known English language here that most of us understand so we can answer your posts properly.
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Alison · Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject:

Your avatar says it all Alan

AllanP · Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 488 Location: Central Scotland.

rickyross3359 · Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject:

I don't find wee John too difficult to read and understand mind you I even quite like reading Burns and that is quite difficult at times.

Wee John · Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 1:46 am Post subject:

BoB · Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: