AllanP
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Too nice GordonI can see why Tony Blair waited for so long to pass on power to Gordon Brown.
He ( Gordon ) does not have the charisma or focus in total belief of his own leadership that TB had in his early or indeed later years in power.
His wait and indecision in calling an early election was and could be Labour's downfall in any forthcoming election to regain power.
He must aspire to monumental heights to acheive another Labour term in office, otherwise the party must revert to being back in oppostion once again.
He seemed to be a great chancellor in his time - but leader and PM? Maybe not!
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Xcotty
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I cant take him seriously, he just looks wrong.
He doesn't really give the impression, of someone we can trust.
Have you seen how quickly his smiles fade, when he meets someone?
He shakes their hand, smile's, like an axeman, then it's gone in a flash.
He stumbles over everyword, when making a speech.
He does this funny paper shuffling thing with his hands.
Even when there is no paper in front of him?
We need a change, and we need it soon.
The NHS, needs help, and it's not happening.
Education needs help, that aint happening either.
Our Soldiers, need better protection, don't see any signs of that happening.
I know a lot of folk think our troops shouldn't be in some of those places.
But they ARE, so they should be looked after better, while they are.
These are just my personal view's.
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SON of WOODY
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| Xcotty wrote: | I cant take him seriously, he just looks wrong.
| Quote: | | He doesn't really give the impression, of someone we can trust. |
Have you seen how quickly his smiles fade, when he meets someone?
He shakes their hand, smile's, like an axeman, then it's gone in a flash.
He stumbles over everyword, when making a speech.
He does this funny paper shuffling thing with his hands.
Even when there is no paper in front of him?
We need a change, and we need it soon.
The NHS, needs help, and it's not happening.
Education needs help, that aint happening either.
Our Soldiers, need better protection, don't see any signs of that happening.
I know a lot of folk think our troops shouldn't be in some of those places.
But they ARE, so they should be looked after better, while they are.
These are just my personal view's. |
Do any of them......... 
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Xcotty
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"Do any of them"?
Dunno really, but there must be one, or two out there,
that actually care, and want to make a difference.
It's just finding the buggers.
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Merak
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It's a sad affair these days when politics is no longer about who has the best vision for the country. It's all about who's got the natural smile - naturally with a sliver tongue behind the teeth, who's got the charisma, who looks best on camera. Folk who have all three of those attributes are ten a penny and working in MacDonalds. It's no basis to be running a country on. You don't get heads of organisations employed purely on that basis, yet it would appear to be elementary above all else, for running a country. 
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Highland Spider
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| Merak wrote: | | It's a sad affair these days when politics is no longer about who has the best vision for the country. It's all about who's got the natural smile - naturally with a sliver tongue behind the teeth, who's got the charisma, who looks best on camera. Folk who have all three of those attributes are ten a penny and working in MacDonalds. It's no basis to be running a country on. You don't get heads of organisations employed purely on that basis, yet it would appear to be elementary above all else, for running a country. |
I wouldnae even go that far Merak. I think it is all about who the media - particularly the red tops - think is "in" at the moment. Tony Bliar lived on that for long enough. Unfortunately for Broon, Cameron picked up some Brownie points (pun intended!) after the summer and our man Gordy has be struggling ever since.
He did make an a$$ of whether or not to call a general election mind you.
HS
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Merak
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You're not far wrong there - Ruby Murdoch was quoted as saying "I can win an election" somewhere in the 90s I think. And he wasn't wrong. Thing is that too many just see what they're reading in the stuff churned out by the likes of Murdoch's meeja. Add to that, those who just vote for whoever their parents vote for, along with those who just vote on the "oh they look nice" basis, then we're fekked really for actually electing anybody who might actually be up to the job.
In terms of Brown not calling an election, the emphasis seems to be on that he deserves to be slated for not calling an election. But hang on just a second... why the fek should parties have the chance to call or decline elections in the first place on the basis that they are likely to win/lose? Would any other party have done otherwise? Na. Course not. Makes a mockery of the whole Governmental process. There should be certain triggers for general elections, but how popular the party in power is, should not be one of them.
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Highland Spider
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Aye, there's a lot to be said for set periods for a parliament (as we have in Scotland now). However, the UK elections are at the gift of the ruling party (but no longer than 5 years I think).
Another way to get a general election in the UK is for the opposition parties to propose, and then win, a vote of no confidence in the ruling paty - difficult but not unknown!
With Maggie Broons popularity within his own party declining it would be the huge majority they currently have that would keep him in power
HS
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Jamrie
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| Highland Spider wrote: | Aye, there's a lot to be said for set periods for a parliament (as we have in Scotland now). However, the UK elections are at the gift of the ruling party (but no longer than 5 years I think).
Another way to get a general election in the UK is for the opposition parties to propose, and then win, a vote of no confidence in the ruling paty - difficult but not unknown!
With Maggie Broons popularity within his own party declining it would be the huge majority they currently have that would keep him in power
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Brown is really no different than any other politician.
You promise the earth to be elected, then once in office, you have to explain why things didn't happen, a good PM has to have that ability to explain how he had managed to hoodwink the electorate without losing face.....that's what it's all about.
As Ronald Regan once said, "Politics is not a bad profession, if you succeed there are many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book".
Ahmm, I believe that Blair is in the process of writing a book, which will be published this year.
Actually what Merak says is probably true, that people still vote because their parents voted that way, "If they are good enough for ma dad then they are good enough for me" syndrome.
I do draw the line when people vote because they look nice...are people really that naive?
Actually a couple of years ago in Italy a lovely young woman got elected to the senate, I don't think that it was because of her political attributes but more to do with the fact that she was an ex-porn star, so I suppose that looks do count for something in certain countries, but not in the UK.
Finally not many people know this but the word politics is derived from the word "Poly" meaning "Many", and the word "Ticks" meaning blood sucking parasites.
Enough said.
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Merak
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| Jamrie wrote: |
I do draw the line when people vote because they look nice...are people really that naive?
Actually a couple of years ago in Italy a lovely young woman got elected to the senate, I don't think that it was because of her political attributes but more to do with the fact that she was an ex-porn star, so I suppose that looks do count for something in certain countries, but not in the UK.
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oh yes, having the charisma to woo voters is everything. That's much to do with why Kinnock, Smith, Hague, Howard all failed where Blair succeeded. Sad but true.
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Xcotty
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I doubt Brown would ever have been Prime Minister, any other way,
than Tony Blair leaving the job?
If it was a vote for charisma, he doesn't seem to have any.
My family, voted SNP, But I always voted Conservative. 
At least I'm brave enough to admit that.
To be honest, I would love an independant Scotland.
Run by who? I don't know yet.
I suppose I shouldn't admit to that, but no point in fibbing.
I'm unsure, as to who I am voting for next?
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Merak
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even back in Major's day, I remember him getting all embarrassed in an interview on the beeb when he got asked what he thought of being regarded as a sex symbol. Dear god. 
and.. will start calling you Tory boy now.
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Xcotty
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Major....Sexy..... For the love of the wee man.
Merak, I've called you a trollop many times.
So you can get your own back now. 
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Jamrie
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| Merak wrote: | even back in Major's day, I remember him getting all embarrassed in an interview on the beeb when he got asked what he thought of being regarded as a sex symbol. Dear god.
and.. will start calling you Tory boy now. |
Aye, but he was probably getting embarrassed  because he was having an affair with that hot dish Miss Edwina Curry at the time.
Who would ever have thought.
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Merak
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oh aye. Imagine them two.... no, actually, don't.
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Xcotty
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I found her very attractive on Hell's Kitchen.
I didn't really, that was a joke, honest. 
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