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Des

Please read this & sign if you agree

I know this guy personally & he is innocent but obviously you have to make your own minds up but please consider it,thanks

http://petition.nogpl.net/index.php
mwl

How disgusting is that  I have signed
no the full shillin

mwl wrote:
How disgusting is that  I have signed


I agree ,i signed too , pupygrl has signed too , she is a U.S. citizen , and

she was sickened .

She says if it happened here the guy would have been shot and would

never been found .
Des

Many thanks people, could i ask you to maybe email the link to friends/family who dont use the forum..
I have already passed it to my Sister in Australia & it is currently doing the rounds out there, again many thanks
Zaf

Ive signed too,  the world is going mad  
Biff

Signed and posted on some Irish websites
BoB

Is no one allowed to defend themselves these days?

It's time the scum got what they deserved, the thug got off to lightly.
He will still be out there!!!  

Oops, was that reverse I accidentally selected  

The world is not going mad, it is mad!  
Bill McLaughlin

He's not innocent, he pleaded guilty to unintentionally injuring the other guy.
He should have been admonished.

In my opinion, It's the Judge who is guilty of gross misjudgement
( In Scotland if I said the Judge was definitely guilty of gross misjudgement, that's a crime known as murmuring, and carries a heavy jail sentence)

The law is a clown in a wig, above criticism but not cynicism.

I've signed it!!
BoB

I'm with you on that Bill.

In my book the creep got what he deserved and as for the Judge      
Des

Bill McLaughlin wrote:
He's not innocent, he pleaded guilty to unintentionally injuring the other guy.
He should have been admonished.

In my opinion, It's the Judge who is guilty of gross misjudgement
( In Scotland if I said the Judge was definitely guilty of gross misjudgement, that's a crime known as murmuring, and carries a heavy jail sentence)

The law is a clown in a wig, above criticism but not cynicism.

I've signed it!!


Semantics aside Bill, he was told that if he didnt plead guilty to the charge that was accepted then he faced an even longer sentence..
I see your point though & appreciate your signing & everyone else that is making this campaign more public
BoB

What pisses me off these days is that if you do anything to defend your property or your family, you are the one made to feel and is treated as a criminal.

If the trouble maker gets hurt that is his/her problem!
Not the victims fault that the thug was full of drink and drugs!
Why should the victim be treated as if it is him/her that is in the wrong.
As long as reasonable force is used to protect you property and your family and yourself it should never go to court.
If it does it should be up to a jury to decide if what you did was reasonable.  That in itself is left up to interpretation.
sissy

Just signed Des,what a nightmare for him and his family.
Xcotty

Me too
Thespian

First post on the new FTS and I can't think of a better subject to post on. As a rule, I don't just sign these petitions just because a fellow FTS'er asks me to, so I did a bit of digging. From what I can see, the petition website does paint a fairly rosy picture of Stephen, as you would expect it to, but, without a doubt, even the most jaundiced of people would say he has been grossly mistreated.

It appears from Stephen's comments in the Sunday Mail, that he acted rashly and attempted to drive away without any consideration for the injury he may have caused the pedestrian. Strictly speaking, that is an offense. However, on these bare facts a sentence in excess of 3 years has to be excessive. But when you consider that not only was the pedestrian menacing and actually attacking Stephen, who had children in his care, then ANY custodial sentence is wholly unacceptable.

I have happily signed this petition.  

(Mind you, on a slightly flippant note which I hope he doesn't mind, I'll bet proison seems lik a holiday camp to a man with so many kids!! )
Des

Thanks Thespian, you & thousands more here & around the world are signing this petition..
Stephen accepts that he is guilty of a crime but not that of which he was convicted & did not merit the sentence handed down to him..
The thug that fell under the wheels was out on bail,tagged & a known criminal
who was carrying an offensive weapon at the time & threatening Stephen & his family..
maria143

I signed...

I'm sorry here you get praised and on tv not only from defending yourself but from riding the city of a criminal...
Des

Yeah i know Maria, this country is so PC that it is getting to the stage that you are wary of telling a teenager off in-case you get accused of something &/or get sued..
Come back Bernard Goetz , well maybe not as extreme but you get my meaning
BoB

It amounts to this, do you protect yourself and your family or do you allow someone to harm them.

There is no doubt that in the eyes of the law he used unequal force, but let's face it, I would have done the same in that position.
Though I don't know the facts of the case, as far as I am concerned my family comes first and I would do time for it.
I have signed the petition (a while ago) and I hope there is some sense seen shortly.
If the moron had been hitting my car while I was in it, I would have drove straight over the top of him to protect my family.
Guest

BoB said
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he used unequal force,


He used what was available to him at the time!
BoB

woodysdad wrote:
BoB said
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he used unequal force,


He used what was available to him at the time!


Yes I agree, and I did say I would have done the same  

Only thing is I would have accidentally knocked the car into reverse.  
Des

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Only thing is I would have accidentally knocked the car into reverse.  



& then forward, reverse, forward & then claimed that you had a rare form of motoring OCD where you have to do things 3 or 4 times or your world will crumble  

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