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AllanP

Meat and two veg.

I cannot for the life of me understand why we have as a nation moved on from the above traditional wholesome everyday meals to nowadays a concoction of various mixtures of somewhat dubious eastern tastes.
Why has garlic suddenly become a must addition to recipes? Why must we also include red and green peppers?
I have watched many TV cookery programmes with relish only to balk at the addition of these aboninations that destroy taste buds.

Please don't try to answer by saying garlic is good for you.
I do not think it is any other than an anaesthetic to the taste buds. It certainly lingers and pervades the individuals pores for upwards of 24 hours and causes noses to wrinkle by anyone who has to come within a few feet of the person involved.
Jamie Oliver and all the rest of the arses involved might well try to get back to decent wholesome recipes, instead of loading them with the crap that destroys the original taste of good wholesome grub.
trickybizz

I like a little garlic in some dishes and it is good for you..

I think it is a  way of adapting the usual meat and two veg..things to spice it up a  little..
Zaf

I rarely eat garlic or cooked peppers,  but I've never eaten meat and 2 veg either  
AllanP

Zaf wrote:
I rarely eat garlic or cooked peppers,  but I've never eaten meat and 2 veg either  


Just the two veg then Zaf.
Zaf

probably several veg allan    
maria143

alot of veggies and fruit are good for your health and the fruits have alot antioxidants...We all now that garlic is good for your heart so is a glass of red wine (red grapes)...Onions are good for your blood and there are alot veggies for cholesterol and so on...

So on that last note I just realized...Zaf you are going to out live us!    
Zaf

LOL,  you dont know about my wicked vices maria    
maria143

...Do tell....and it better not be wine....it's good for the heart and has antioxidents...
AllanP

maria143 wrote:
alot of veggies and fruit are good for your health and the fruits have alot antioxidants...We all now that garlic is good for your heart so is a glass of red wine (red grapes)...Onions are good for your blood and there are alot veggies for cholesterol and so on...

So on that last note I just realized...Zaf you are going to out live us!    


Perhaps you might try and answer this question then.
Just why is it that garlic is good for the heart then?
You'll be telling me next, that carrots help us see in the dark.
Garlic is much like onion only much. much stronger and does nothing of the sort.
As far as I'm aware it does nothing except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with.
There is not a shred of medical evidence that says it prolongs health or indeed help an already healthy heart.
It is foul, doesn't do that much good (as you claim) and pervades the nostrils of anyone nearby for hours on end.
Des

If as you say garlic does nothing "except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with" then maybe you are using it wrong..
Have a wee read here Allan..Garlic rocks & enhances certain foods..
My wife & I are veggies & our health has improved vastly since giving up meat but whatever floats yer boat


http://www.garlic.mistral.co.uk/
AllanP

Des wrote:
If as you say garlic does nothing "except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with" then maybe you are using it wrong..
Have a wee read here Allan..Garlic rocks & enhances certain foods..
My wife & I are veggies & our health has improved vastly since giving up meat but whatever floats yer boat


http://www.garlic.mistral.co.uk/


Garlic does not rock and never has done so, until recent times when you along with many others, believe that it is the all singing all dancing additive that will prolong life and make you a healthier person for using it.

I have looked at your link along with all the graphs etc. and cannot understand just what this love with a pungent vegetable like this is worthy of your own admiration and accolade?

I accept that it is is a matter of individual taste and your own choice, but imposing others natural airspace with disgusting odours from sweat glands and breath isn't a worthy attribute to your defense of garlic.

I'm sure that you'd object if I ate cabbage and beans everyday that you'd then complain of my disgusting odorous smells.

Anti-Garlic laws should be passed side by side along with anti-smoking laws IMO.
maria143

Des wrote:
If as you say garlic does nothing "except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with" then maybe you are using it wrong..
Have a wee read here Allan..Garlic rocks & enhances certain foods..
My wife & I are veggies & our health has improved vastly since giving up meat but whatever floats yer boat


http://www.garlic.mistral.co.uk/


I love garlic...I add it to everything...I'm not a veggie, I like meat and when you season it with garlic, salt, pepper, complete seasoning (blend of seasoning...very good)and lime...I let it sit for an hour...OMG when you cook it (fry, bake, sautee) the taste and smell...Now I'm hungry...Oh and it's good for the heart, read the above thanks...

I want Ropa Vieja or Vaca Frita...Rice and maybe depending on the type of beans available beans....
maria143

Have you had baked garlic (a garlic clove the top cut of drizzled with olive oil and salt and pepper-1 hour in the oven depending the size)....OMG when it comes out of the oven and squeeze it out, spread on some italian bread (toast)...Heaven...sweet....

They have a way to do it in the microwave for a shorter time haven't tried it...
mwl

Thats sounds heavenly!     Me and my daughter are mad about garlic bread - home made one that we make ourselves - mmmm
maria143

mwl wrote:
Thats sounds heavenly!     Me and my daughter are mad about garlic bread - home made one that we make ourselves - mmmm


What do you do...?...

I make my garlic bread and then a bruchetta or caprese...This is a snack we have almost every weekend if not homemade salsa...


Zaf

AllanP wrote:
maria143 wrote:
alot of veggies and fruit are good for your health and the fruits have alot antioxidants...We all now that garlic is good for your heart so is a glass of red wine (red grapes)...Onions are good for your blood and there are alot veggies for cholesterol and so on...

So on that last note I just realized...Zaf you are going to out live us!    


Perhaps you might try and answer this question then.
Just why is it that garlic is good for the heart then?
You'll be telling me next, that carrots help us see in the dark.
Garlic is much like onion only much. much stronger and does nothing of the sort.
As far as I'm aware it does nothing except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with.
There is not a shred of medical evidence that says it prolongs health or indeed help an already healthy heart.
It is foul, doesn't do that much good (as you claim) and pervades the nostrils of anyone nearby for hours on end.


well, erm, carrots do help us see in the dark - or shall I say they can help avoid 'night blindness' as they provide a lot of beta-carotene as well as lutein, a yellow plant pigment that lowers the risk of cataracts and protects the eyes against damage from ageing.

(They’re also an excellent source of antioxidants, which help combat the free radical cells that can cause cancer) but............someone managed to kill themselves by overdosing on carrots believe it or not!
maria143

"They’re also an excellent source of antioxidants, which help combat the free radical cells that can cause cancer"

Tomatoes...Zaf, has high antioxidants...I also use lemon or lime for my elbows, knees, the heel...you know they are a natural bleach...also add to water and spritz your hair with it...Natural highlights...

Between all the power juices...vitamin supplements...bars....People are forgetting they could get 100% and better results with the original (natural) fruit and vegetables....
Guest

Let's face it... a lot of the hair care stuff is made with Cactus Juice!..which they call jojoba!
BoB

woodysdad wrote:
Let's face it... a lot of the hair care stuff is made with Cactus Juice!..which they call jojoba!


Aye, and you would know eh Woodysdad  
Guest

Since I have very little hair..erm..no!  
mwl

woodysdad wrote:
Since I have very little hair..erm..no!  


   
Guest

   

I LIKE being baldie!      
mwl

Say no more Please
mwl

maria143 wrote:
mwl wrote:
Thats sounds heavenly!     Me and my daughter are mad about garlic bread - home made one that we make ourselves - mmmm


What do you do...?...

I make my garlic bread and then a bruchetta or caprese...This is a snack we have almost every weekend if not homemade salsa...




We just make our own bread and own garlic butter smeered with grated cheese and salad with a drizzle of olive oil - its very nice!
Guest

Olive Oil  
mwl

You forgot POPEYE
AllanP

Zaf wrote:
AllanP wrote:
maria143 wrote:
alot of veggies and fruit are good for your health and the fruits have alot antioxidants...We all now that garlic is good for your heart so is a glass of red wine (red grapes)...Onions are good for your blood and there are alot veggies for cholesterol and so on...

So on that last note I just realized...Zaf you are going to out live us!    


Perhaps you might try and answer this question then.
Just why is it that garlic is good for the heart then?
You'll be telling me next, that carrots help us see in the dark.
Garlic is much like onion only much. much stronger and does nothing of the sort.
As far as I'm aware it does nothing except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with.
There is not a shred of medical evidence that says it prolongs health or indeed help an already healthy heart.
It is foul, doesn't do that much good (as you claim) and pervades the nostrils of anyone nearby for hours on end.


well, erm, carrots do help us see in the dark - or shall I say they can help avoid 'night blindness' as they provide a lot of beta-carotene as well as lutein, a yellow plant pigment that lowers the risk of cataracts and protects the eyes against damage from ageing.

(They’re also an excellent source of antioxidants, which help combat the free radical cells that can cause cancer) but............someone managed to kill themselves by overdosing on carrots believe it or not!


Emm! Maybe garlic then is the next endemic to blight the human race.
I cannot remember which politician said that there are lies, damned lies and statistics, but he/she was more or less correct.

Most claims are sometimes met with many other counter claims, and my own claim is that garlic is not only bad for you, but for others near to you.
Guest

OOps!
mwl

aye thats better!   Nah pleasin some people eh WD
Guest

Seems that way!    
mwl

you not suppose to agree    
Guest

TUFF!        
mwl

hurmp
Zaf

AllanP wrote:
Zaf wrote:
AllanP wrote:
maria143 wrote:
alot of veggies and fruit are good for your health and the fruits have alot antioxidants...We all now that garlic is good for your heart so is a glass of red wine (red grapes)...Onions are good for your blood and there are alot veggies for cholesterol and so on...

So on that last note I just realized...Zaf you are going to out live us!    


Perhaps you might try and answer this question then.
Just why is it that garlic is good for the heart then?
You'll be telling me next, that carrots help us see in the dark.
Garlic is much like onion only much. much stronger and does nothing of the sort.
As far as I'm aware it does nothing except disguise the taste of anything it is mixed with.
There is not a shred of medical evidence that says it prolongs health or indeed help an already healthy heart.
It is foul, doesn't do that much good (as you claim) and pervades the nostrils of anyone nearby for hours on end.


well, erm, carrots do help us see in the dark - or shall I say they can help avoid 'night blindness' as they provide a lot of beta-carotene as well as lutein, a yellow plant pigment that lowers the risk of cataracts and protects the eyes against damage from ageing.

(They’re also an excellent source of antioxidants, which help combat the free radical cells that can cause cancer) but............someone managed to kill themselves by overdosing on carrots believe it or not!


Emm! Maybe garlic then is the next endemic to blight the human race.
I cannot remember which politician said that there are lies, damned lies and statistics, but he/she was more or less correct.

Most claims are sometimes met with many other counter claims, and my own claim is that garlic is not only bad for you, but for others near to you.


definitely for others near you sometimes  
maria143

woodysdad wrote:
Let's face it... a lot of the hair care stuff is made with Cactus Juice!..which they call jojoba!


We use Eucolyptus, seagrass, lemon grass, coconut, oranges, lime, mint leaves, chocolate, etc., and etc...in our shampoos and lotions...Woody
Guest

You sound good enough to eat!!    
AllanP

maria143 wrote:
woodysdad wrote:
Let's face it... a lot of the hair care stuff is made with Cactus Juice!..which they call jojoba!


We use Eucolyptus, seagrass, lemon grass, coconut, oranges, lime, mint leaves, chocolate, etc., and etc...in our shampoos and lotions...Woody


Wot! No garlic?  
Guest

add yer own!
Bigman

Garlic contains a compund called allicin, which is broken down into sulphur compounds which can taint breath.

These compounds react with red blood cells and produce hydrogen sulphide which relaxes the blood vessels, and keeps blood flowing easily and within the blood vessels it stimulates the cells that form the lining to relax, causing the vessels to dilate.

This, in turn, reduces blood pressure, allowing the blood to carry more oxygen to essential organs, and reducing pressure on the heart.

Allan, my father used to have the same opinion as you about garlic and he never knew that my mother had been cooking with for years till she didn't have any and when he tucked into his spag bol one day he asked my mother if she had forgotten to add the salt, to which my mother replied no, George, there's nae garlic in it coz the coop had ran oot! You could have knocked him down with a feather.

Garlic adds flavour, is good for you and keeps midgies and mosquitos aff you when your on holiday  
AllanP

Garlic adds flavour, is good for you and keeps midgies and mosquitos aff you when your on holiday.

My sadly long departed Grandfather used to light his old smelly pipe which did the same.
Maybe midges abhor garlic vapours too!
maria143

woodysdad wrote:
You sound good enough to eat!!    



grrrrr....Thanks...
eloise

Allan, I was raised on meat and 2 veg too, still enjoy both meat and vegetables too.
Lord Blackadder

I have a very good chef ... and much prefer, Eastern, Continental and American food to our British tasteless crap!!!  
irritateddata

Lord Blackadder wrote:
I have a very good chef ... and much prefer, Eastern, Continental and American food to our British tasteless crap!!!  


I quite like chickens feet and fish lips
Lord Blackadder

And I bet you have both!  See a doctor!  
irritateddata

I've had both - in chinatown in manchester, if ever I go in there again I'll think of you then

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