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| rickyross3359 |
Is the UK treasury selling off Scottish assetsThat the Nationwide has been able to purchase the "good assets" of the Dunfermline and the taxpayer picks up the bad assets comes as no surprise. Given that the Nationwide will not reveal what it did pay for the good bits apart from saying that in the current financial market it paid a fair price. .However we learn tonight that there was another bid put on the table by a consortium of Scottish based companies and that this wasn't explored in the way it should have been. All of this begs serious questions and I hope that politics hasn't come into the decision but I aint that stupid. |
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| Lord Blackadder |
It certainly looks like Scotland is being asset-stripped.
Are we to become more dependent on our southern cousins??? What price Independence now??? |
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| rickyross3359 |
Maybe we should stop pussy footing along with the UK government. We have tried peacful means but hey I really think Violence is the only thing the English government understands. | ||||
| WACOlives |
You get stuck in Ricky boy-----------------
We'll all follow you !! 
-------------------------------------------------------------- There once was a man, who loved a woman |
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| Lord Blackadder |
I'll hold the jackets!!! 
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| rickyross3359 |
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| Merak |
Re: Is the UK treasury selling off Scottish assets
What consortium of scottish based companies? At least it's still British based and not been bought by some Spanish bank like the Abbey was. And, if there is politics at play here then don't forget to ask yourself how things might've been if wee eck had made the effort to work alongside the westminster Government instead of against it and mouthing off about it at every conceivable opportunity in an attempt to embarrass it whilst making itself look better and win votes for independence. Could it be that that tactic has come back to bite him in the arse? He's only himself to blame if it has... but somehow, just somehow, it'll all still be Westminster's fault. Eck's been awfy quiet in fact these days.. what's up - cat got his tongue? |
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| rickyross3359 |
Merek you work for the BBC by any chance? What a load of bias bile u utter forth. | ||||
| rickyross3359 |
And when you say what Scottish Consortium, it was reported on Newsnight 30th March. I believe part of it was Scottish life, Standard life and other groups. It wasn't given time to even get around the table.
As for British, its only a geographical term. I will never be British the way that Gordon Brown wants us to be British. |
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| Merak |
Why what's bias about it?  Wee eck works against westminster at every turn. Bad mouths it at every turn. So, if there's politics at play here do you really expect the westminster gov to go out of it's way to help? Ha! And, it would be exactly the same the other way round. I'm able to see that though unlike yourself who prefers to view it through the rose tinted glasses of hail SNP  and big bad westminster asset stripping poor ol' Scotland. 
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| Merak |
oh, and I know the stuff with british as well - it's a blanket nationality that we're under whether we like it or not seeing as we had no say in the matter. Then again, anybody born in Scotland had no say in the matter either. Personally I don't ascribe to being Scottish or British. | ||||
| rickyross3359 |
Well I knew that of course with a name like Merek. I chose not to wear rose tinted glasses and I can certainly see how westminister perceives Scotland. I need no help with that. | ||||
| irritateddata |
what english government? England and the english don't exist, it is banned, there is no english box for the english you can only be called british. And last time I looked the english parliament is being run by scots, Brown, (Blair even tho he hasnt the accent ) to name just a couple. Your average common or garden variety englishman/woman is struggling under this government too you know. |
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| Lord Blackadder |
It's true you know. England doesn't really exist as a nation except in times of war, football and cricket ...
Most people south of our beloved border consider themseves Yorkshiremen, or Cornish, or Lancastrian or whatever before saying "English". Therefore, seek not to blame the English ... blame the self-serving, stinking and corrupt parliamentary governing party system! Viva La Revolución 
Anarchists Untie!!!!!! 
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| AllanP |
By your own observation...The cost of Independence will be too great. Better the devil you know..Than the devil you don't. |
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| Merak |
My moniker comes from the name of a star in the constellation ursa major. Nothing to do with nationality and any similarity to any is entirely coincidental. And you have got your rose tinted specs on - you're going on as if westminster will stop nothing to scupper any notion of an independent scotland when in actual fact, the majority of people in scotland don't want independence. And wee eck knows it, hence dragging his heels with a referendum on the matter. I note he's shelved the 2010 referendum that he promised as well now. Not really the actions of somebody certain to get a landslide victory is it? 
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| rickyross3359 |
The fact is Merek you seek to Blame Alex Salmond for every dispute with Westminister. The real fact remains Gordon Brown by his own words said "He refuses to work with an SNP Aministration and has sought to Thwart it time and time again.
As for Alex Salmond picking fights with Westminster sorry He is and Will stick up for Scotland at every appropriate opportunity. |
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| rickyross3359 |
Also I would say I do not blame English people for anything. It is the English establishment that has run roughshod over Scotland in general.
Its no surprise that our largest neighbour would dominate the UK - its only natural. However there is no doubt that Scotland would be served better as a Nation of 5 million and more able to focus on developing what would be of benefit to our people. We can no longer afford to support the infrastucture that is London and the South East of England. |
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| rickyross3359 |
Oh and Merek. Alex Salmond has not shelved the 2011 referendum <it was 2011 in the manifesto from the start - not 2010. He has shelved nothing unfortunately the Unionists within the Scottish parliament have made it clear they will not support the Bill when presented.
From Wendy's "Bring it on" we now know that Labour have shirked out of that stance. So not it is not the SNP running scared here. |
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| Merak |
2011? really? Will hearing it from the horse's mouth convince you otherwise?
" "We will stick to what we offered the people; demonstrating credibility in government, engaging with the people through our national conversation and bringing forward a referendum in 2010. This is a timetable that was set out in our manifesto on which we fought and won the election and we will continue proceeding on that organised timetable as opposed to the chaotic u-turns of Labour. http://www.snp.org/node/13771 What planet are you on? Oh.. the SNP's. Silly me. By the way.. it's Merak, not Merek.. but then I see you're not really used to paying attention to detail, so it's ok. 
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| Sidsnotwasere |
Merek,to be fair tae the SNP,they at least have done more in 2 years than the Labour have in the past 10 in Scotland,and no,i do not support the S.N.P. in any way,shape or form,though my son has joined with them recently.
This may surprise you,maybe not,i have written and emailed tae the Labour Party headquarters 4 times in recent years,not one single reply,i also emailed tae the S.N.P. 3 months ago, and got a reply within 3 hours from Susan Ruddick,that tell's me who cares more about Scotland's interests. Okay,they may not be everyone's cuppa tea,but they will take most votes at the next election,trust me on that point. |
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| Merak |
That salmond is a devious little c***. He's forever bleating on about how scotland would be better off independent... yet he's also been at Europe to clarify whether or not a Scottish Euro note would be feasible [which it would]. But have you ever heard the likes of it? A scottish euro? There's nothing inherently scottish about the euro and this man is taking folk for clowns thinking that cause if it's called a "scottish" euro then that's all going to be fine. And that's from the same man causing a fuss about the take over of HBOS and piping up about the future of scottish bank notes. He's sold scotland down the swanney in the event that "independence" as he calls it, ever happens. Out of the clutches of westminster, straight into the arms of brussels. That slimey toad would sell Scotland to Brunei if it meant getting away from Westminster. | ||||
| rickyross3359 |
Merek you have shown your true colours when you say that Alex Salmond is a devious wee c***. I think we know from the email scandal from NO.10 just who is devious and will go to any lengths to thwart his enemies. Brown has always surrounded himself this bulldog advisors who will do his bidding. He is certainly not the "Child of the manse" that he wants us to believe. I repeat again he would go to any lengths to besmirch the SNP or other opponents and if that means selling off Scotland's assests then if it meets his devious ends then so be it. History will eventually tell that Brown is a phycologically damaged man. | ||||
| rickyross3359 |
The point is about the referendum is simply stated they will bring the bill to parliament as planned and when they as the government choose to do so - not when the labour party thought they should do it.
The fact that they are a minority government means of course that they will not get everything through. That is not broken promises its a reality of government without large majorities. |
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| Merak |
True colours? What do you mean by that? I'd've thought Salmond off in the background checking out a "Scottish Euro banknote" whilst ramping on about "independence" was a showing of true colours. Still. It's not me with the starry eyes over him.
Anyway... here's a little comparison between what labour said in 1997 when they swept to power, and what Gordon Brown said in 2007, when he took over from Blair 10 years later.. 
Quite an amazing similarity between what was said by Blair in 1997 & Brown in 2007, isn't it? Yet around £1trillion spent in the process of actually not doing anything. Anyway, salmond IS a devious wee c*** relying on folk like yourself to vote for him. |
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| Sidsnotwasere |
Note also that Blair has made,since he left the NL party,£15,million just by doing a wee speech here and there,feck i used tae rage when i saw Thatcher making £200,000 a time by doing likewise,Blair shows her how it should be done properly,i.e. conning everyone. | ||||
| Merak |
Blair ditched any association with Parliament as soon as possible after leaving office cause he knew fine well he could coin it in on the speech circuit without having to declare a penny to parliament - which he would've had to have done had he taken his place on the backbenches. It really does just go to show that his interest was self-interest over and above anything else. And to think that he's what.. the UN peace envoy to the middle east or something now? The very place he colluded to start wars in.. and he's a peace envoy? Couldnae make it up! | ||||
| rickyross3359 |
If Salmond is devious then there must be devious and seriously deranged devious. I would rather be deceived by Salmond than the other politicians in the bunch. Salmond at least puts Scotland deviously at the heart of his politics.
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| Merak |
Salmond is a man obsessed, and people with obsessions are dangerous, especially in positions of authority. He's got folk like you fooled by his free this that and the other gimmickry along with fooled into thinking independence means it in the true sense when what it means away from the evil clutches of westmister and straight into the loving arms of Brussels. Aye, independent right enough eh?
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| rickyross3359 |
Take off those "Red rose" specs Merek. An Independent Scotland in Europe is better than Scotland in the Uk Take the European parliament where Luxembourg with 500,000 people gets 6 MEP's and Scotland with a Pop of 5 million get's emm, 6 MEP's . Incidently Denmark with population of 5.4 mill gets 13 MEP's. Also these other nations have a seat at on The Council of Ministers. I don't think your argument stacks up all that well. As for your constant badgering of Alex Salmond get a grip man. | ||||
| Sidsnotwasere |
Ricky,i doubt whether the Scottish people,if push came tae shove,wud ever vote tae break away from the U.K.
As for Brussels and the E.U. no thanks. The amount of thieving that goes on in those corridors wud make Gordon Brown look like a penny pincher. |
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| rickyross3359 |
That remains to be seen. Concerning Europe the fact is we are in Europe whether we like it or not. If we are in Europe would it not be better if Scotland had the best representation possible?
Since Scotland is not a member State like Luxembourg or even Ireland, we don't have automatic right to be represented on EU institutions such as the European Council, the European Commission, the European Court of Justice or the European Court of Auditors. The argument is not whether we want to be in Europe or not. It's the fact that we are in Europe so Scotland should be having the best possible representation. |
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| Merak |
indeed - and Salmond knows it. Hence no referendum on independence yet and instead it's been put back til after the next elections. That says it all really.
Precisely. And the likes of salmond is forever banging on about unfair financials from westminster?! Goes to show that for some it's more about getting away from westminster than what's in scotland's best interests. |
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| Merak |
i'm going to try and avoid using the word 'indepedence' I think because it's either going to be ruled from westminster, or ruled from Brussels. One thing it ain't going to be, is independent. As for badgering... that's exactly all salmond does when it comes to westminster. Goldie got him a cracker the other day when he was playing his bagpipes about the budget and she said something to him about all he's doing is moaning and not actually saying anything about how it was going to be accommodated. He said something back that never actually said anything, so she was bang-on - far too busy moaning about it to be thinking about anything else. Come to think of it... it would be a roar to give salmond the helm for two years or something. Who would he be able to blame for everything? No doubt he would still manage to blame westminster.
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| rickyross3359 |
Merek I wont be biting - however the SNP will bring their Independence referendum before parliament and if the Unionist parties do not want to play then that is up to them. But the bill will be most deffo brought before the paliament as promised. | ||||
| Merak |
They've ALREADY said they won't be holding a referendum in 2010 - as promised - in their election manifesto! You clearly don't believe me, so you'd best phone them and get them to tell you.
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| rickyross3359 |
Ok phoned 'em up and the said "We will bring the bill before parliament to hold a referendum however as we do not hold a majority in Holyrood and by the fact that the Unionist parties do not support the referendum bill unless we can persuade otherwise it is highly likely that the bill will fail." | ||||
| Carol |
I'm for a referendum and a yes vote. We have a democractic right to determine our own future and politicians of all parties should realise that.
Are the SNP premature to consider taking a referendum bill forward in 2010, or should they wait until after the 2011 SP elections? |
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| rickyross3359 |
Personally speaking Carol I have no preference as to when they hold it. I have waited thus far and don't mind waiting until after 2011. However if the Tories do get in at the UK General election I suspect that many more will want a referendum as soon as possible. | ||||
| Carol |
Providing the timing is right, I've no preference either. although I wouldn't like to think a referendum is too far down the line. | ||||
| Merak |
ahh.. bless wee "it's no oor fault" eck... wiping the sweat off his brow.
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| Merak |
I would love to say that I can't wait for it either cause then that'll settle it one way or the other and be done with it. But it won't be done with it... if Yes.. there'll be years to come of wingeing about this that and the other and westminster STILL getting blamed for things 100 years down the line. If No.. well pretty much the same... westminster still getting blamed for everything 100 years down the line.
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| rickyross3359 |
Oh well then Merek, we'll be dammed if we say YES and dammed if we say NO. 
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| Carol |
it seems daft for Westminster to be babysitting us, I kinda think we're big enough to look after ourselves
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| rickyross3359 |
By the Merek and company if you are so intent on WESTMINSTER still babysitting us can you ask them to stop inferring to themselves as THE HONOURABLE MEMBER or if a member of the Privy Cooncil THE RIGHT HONOURABLE MEMBER. They really want to Shred SIR Fred's Knighthood do they? God they need to start Shredding themselves. My estimation of the Scottish parliament has just gone up. | ||||
| Merak |
Aye, salt of the earth are your SNP http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news...-as-slum-landlord-86908-20639199/
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news...m-her-current-one-86908-20621138/ |
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| rickyross3359 |
As expected Merek, I say as expected
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| Merak |
The way you go on about them you'd think they were Gods or something. Mind you, I've already said you view them through rose tinted specs. | ||||
| Merak |
Well, well, well. Wee eck caught with his "done nothing wrong" finger in the pie as well now! 
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| rickyross3359 |
Old news from weeks ago Merek - which has been distorted as per usual.
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| Merak |
distorted? Aye right. Crikey I don't think there's any of them that haven't tried to plead things aren't as they seem. And him the very one commenting on the morals of it all turns not to have had his wee snout in the trough as well.
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| rickyross3359 |
As I said old news Next? | ||||
| Merak |
That one quickly dismissed I see. Wouldn't do to muddy yer wee starries I suppose.
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| rickyross3359 |
see my post on 12th May on expenses - already mentions all that you say. Any more?
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